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Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:56 AM

 

 

You're wasting my time and cluttering this site, Glenn.   Are these your words from post #11, Glenn?

 

 

 

"Your experience Maiden may be different than mine, as other peoples experiences may or may not be different.  You said the "majority" of kids, that certainly doesn't mean every kid you know had a USHL coach call an NAHL coach to get them a spot.  Some USHL coaches still have the opinion that the BCHL is better than the NAHL.  I said some not all.  The NAHL as a league was aware of this opinion existing in some organizations."

 

 

Not my words. Your BFF ML's words. Sorry for wasting your time and cluttering up the sight does that mean you don't want me to spend the time rating the leagues?

 

This doesn't make sense to me either!

 

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:27 PM

Our guy Minorlife's site (The Junior Hockey News) has what I think is a helpful article concerning tryout camps here in the US.    Link

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Should a player have to give up going to a USHL camp to attend an NAHL camp?  Should a player have to give up an NAHL camp for a Tier III camp?  The answer is easily “NO”! 

Why are Tier III teams pressuring players to sign contracts in April and May when the USHL and NAHL drafts haven’t even been completed? 

We sure don’t want to take the lead from Canada though do we?  I mean they have a pretty simple system that allows all players to filter into their own natural landing spot.  Its called using your brain. 

Major Junior leagues have their camps, then Junior A or Tier II, then Junior B and so on down the line.  Pretty damn simple hey kids?  Let the big boys go first, then everyone gets in line.

 

 

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 03:53 PM

Draft means very little.  I watch drafted players in USHL and NAHL get cut every year.  NAHL is not the only Tier II league in North America.  Canada still out commits the US 3 to 1 

Many teams in Canada  do a much better job at moving kids to NCAA than many of the NAHL teams.  The CCHL and OJHL producing a ton of players.

 

 

There is a difference between someone who plays hockey, and a Hockey Player. which one are you?

 

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 08:35 PM

I understand how the system works.  Everyone talks about the NAHL, when in my opinion it is the fourth best Tier II league in North America.  I will take Canadian Junior A over the NAHL in most instances.

 

 

There is a difference between someone who plays hockey, and a Hockey Player. which one are you?


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 12:37 PM

I guess if you use the same template every year you can correct the spelling errors. :)

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Rating The Junior Hockey Leagues 2016 Edition – Canada Junior B
Posted by Admin On July 21, 2016 0 Comment

I want to remind all readers that this series of articles rating the junior hockey leagues in North America is based upon independent opinions and analysis of scouts throughout the United States and Canada.

This rating is based upon the 2015-2016 season and nothing more. A leagues history does not come into account in any way.

The criteria that was used in rating these eleven leagues, was how do teams within the leagues compare when developing players who move on to the NHL, NCAA, Canadian University, USHL, NAHL, Canada Junior A and Major Junior hockey programs. The size of the league as in number of teams was also taken into account for depth of player talent throughout the league.

Again this is not a historical account of each league but a rating based upon last season alone. We hope this series of articles is informative and promotes a healthy discussion. Due to the volume of Junior B leagues in Canada, comments are limited in this article, and we are only ranking the top ten.

1. Greater Ontario Junior Hockey League (GOJHL)

The GOJHL remained the top junior B development league in Canada for the third year in a row, and as usual it wasn’t even close. This league, or at least the majority of teams in the league are seen by scouts as being Junior A level without the Junior A label. Will the 2017 season bring the Junior A label?

2. Vancouver Island Junior Hockey League (VIJHL)

A top level league with a lot of very good young players last year. More work was done with player exposure and league marketing in 2015-2016 than has been done in the past. More player movement was talked about than in previous season showing a progressive move toward development.

3. Pacific Junior Hockey League (PJHL)

Pretty much the same as the “V” they did a good job at players move up last season. Marketing toward scouts was increased, and players received benefit of increased scouting. The league as a whole seemed to take a new outlook on development and focused less on just the wins and losses.

4. CCHL2

Ottawa hockey at the B level is continuing to change, and not all for the good. Scouts were looking for a rise in development as the league switched to the CCHL2 from the EOJHL. Though the level of play appeared to rise slightly, the amount of player movement did not equal the rise in talent level. Rumors abounded of players being held back that could have gone to other Junior A leagues.

5. Heritage Junior B Hockey League (HJHL)

Heritage hockey is good. They really try to move kids on to the AJ, and they continue to have success. More ground was lost last season in how well players were scouted and marketed.

6. Prairie Junior Hockey League (PJHL)

See comments above.

7. Kootenay International Junior Hockey League (KIJHL)

Jumping ten spots from last seasons rankings, the KIJHL really made a serious effort last year on behalf of the players. The league as a whole was offended by their ranking last year, and apparently wanted to do something to change it. Actually working for the players and trying to move them up all season did just that. Credit where credit is due.

8. Quebec Junior B Hockey

There are six junior B leagues in Quebec. A lot of teams, and a lot of skill. They work hard to develop players for the Q, and the Maritimes. A lot of teams and a lot of players to see, yet marketing of the league is virtually non existent.

9. New Brunswick Junior B Hockey League

Too bad a good league just doesn’t doo much to move players.

10. Calgary Junior Hockey League

A ton of talent in the league, but no player marketing plan.

Next week, in what will likely be a hotly debated piece we will rate the Tier III junior leagues in the United States.
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Rating The Junior Hockey Leagues – Canadian Junior B 2017 Edition
Posted by Admin On July 19, 2017 0 Comment

I want to remind all readers that this series of articles rating the junior hockey leagues in North America is based upon independent opinions and analysis of scouts throughout the United States and Canada.

This rating is based upon the 2016-2017 season and nothing more. A leagues history does not come into account in any way.

The criteria that was used in rating these ten leagues, was how do teams within the leagues compare when developing players who move on to the NHL, NCAA, Canadian University, USHL, NAHL, Canada Junior A and Major Junior hockey programs. The size of the league as in number of teams was also taken into account for depth of player talent throughout the league.

Again this is not a historical account of each league but a rating based upon last season alone. We hope this series of articles is informative and promotes a healthy discussion. Due to the volume of Junior B leagues in Canada, comments are limited in this article, and we are only ranking the top ten.

1. Greater Ontario Junior Hockey League (GOJHL)
The GOJHL remained the top junior B development league in Canada for the fourth year in a row, and as usual it wasn’t even close. This league, or at least the majority of teams in the league are seen by scouts as being Junior A level without the Junior A label. While undergoing changes based upon Ontario Hockey Association mandate, questions of how long they will remain at the top are surfacing.

2. Vancouver Island Junior Hockey League (VIJHL)
A top level league with a lot of very good young players last year. More work was done with player exposure again this year. More player movement took place than in previous seasons showing a progressive move toward development.

3. Pacific Junior Hockey League (PJHL)
Pretty much the same as the “V” they improved at players moving up last season. Marketing toward scouts was increased, and players received benefit of increased scouting.

4. Heritage Junior B Hockey League (HJHL)
Heritage hockey is good, very under rated really. They try to move kids on to the AJ, and they continue to have success. The league looked like it made up some ground this season in regaining scouting interest as more were seen attending games early and late in the season.

5. CCHL2
The CCHL2 looks to be stuck in second gear and the clutch isn’t working. Though the level of play appeared to stay the same, the amount of player movement up did not rise to expected levels. Concerns have been raised that the league is focused too much upon ancillary income streams and not enough on player promotion.

6. Kootenay International Junior Hockey League (KIJHL)
Jumping another position from last seasons rankings, the KIJHL continues to make a serious effort on behalf of the players. Actually working for the players and trying to move them up is paying dividends. The question now is what else can they do to make it better?

7. Prairie Junior Hockey League (PJHL)
The dropped to 7 this year. Not a bad position, but nothing appears to be in the works to raise the profile of the league concerning scouts.

8. Quebec Junior B Hockey
There are six junior B leagues in Quebec. A lot of teams, and a lot of skill. Nothing is changing and no one seems to care.

9. New Brunswick Junior B Hockey League
Too bad a good league just doesn’t do much to move players. If there is a plan, no one seems to know what it is.

10. Calgary Junior Hockey League
A ton of talent in the league, but again no player marketing plan.

Next week, in what will likely be a hotly debated piece we will rate the Tier III junior leagues in the United States.
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Posted 20 July 2017 - 12:59 PM

 

 

 

You're wasting my time and cluttering this site, Glenn.   Are these your words from post #11, Glenn?

 

 

 

"Your experience Maiden may be different than mine, as other peoples experiences may or may not be different.  You said the "majority" of kids, that certainly doesn't mean every kid you know had a USHL coach call an NAHL coach to get them a spot.  Some USHL coaches still have the opinion that the BCHL is better than the NAHL.  I said some not all.  The NAHL as a league was aware of this opinion existing in some organizations."

 

 

Not my words. Your BFF ML's words. Sorry for wasting your time and cluttering up the sight does that mean you don't want me to spend the time rating the leagues?

 

This doesn't make sense to me either!

 

http://finishyourche...-united-states/

 

 

Mr Ricochet  

Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:27 PM

Our guy Minorlife's site (The Junior Hockey News) has what I think is a helpful article concerning tryout camps here in the US.    Link

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Should a player have to give up going to a USHL camp to attend an NAHL camp?  Should a player have to give up an NAHL camp for a Tier III camp?  The answer is easily “NO”! 

Why are Tier III teams pressuring players to sign contracts in April and May when the USHL and NAHL drafts haven’t even been completed? 

We sure don’t want to take the lead from Canada though do we?  I mean they have a pretty simple system that allows all players to filter into their own natural landing spot.  Its called using your brain. 

Major Junior leagues have their camps, then Junior A or Tier II, then Junior B and so on down the line.  Pretty damn simple hey kids?  Let the big boys go first, then everyone gets in line.

 

 

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 03:53 PM

Draft means very little.  I watch drafted players in USHL and NAHL get cut every year.  NAHL is not the only Tier II league in North America.  Canada still out commits the US 3 to 1 

Many teams in Canada  do a much better job at moving kids to NCAA than many of the NAHL teams.  The CCHL and OJHL producing a ton of players.

 

 

There is a difference between someone who plays hockey, and a Hockey Player. which one are you?

 

minor life  

Posted 05 June 2014 - 08:35 PM

I understand how the system works.  Everyone talks about the NAHL, when in my opinion it is the fourth best Tier II league in North America.  I will take Canadian Junior A over the NAHL in most instances.

 

 

There is a difference between someone who plays hockey, and a Hockey Player. which one are you?

 

 

What is this?  I see you've figured out how to go 3-4-8 yrs back but is there a point?  If so clean it up so it can be deciphered. 


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 01:28 PM

 

 

 

 

You're wasting my time and cluttering this site, Glenn.   Are these your words from post #11, Glenn?

 

 

 

"Your experience Maiden may be different than mine, as other peoples experiences may or may not be different.  You said the "majority" of kids, that certainly doesn't mean every kid you know had a USHL coach call an NAHL coach to get them a spot.  Some USHL coaches still have the opinion that the BCHL is better than the NAHL.  I said some not all.  The NAHL as a league was aware of this opinion existing in some organizations."

 

 

Not my words. Your BFF ML's words. Sorry for wasting your time and cluttering up the sight does that mean you don't want me to spend the time rating the leagues?

 

This doesn't make sense to me either!

 

http://finishyourche...-united-states/

 

 

Mr Ricochet  

Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:27 PM

Our guy Minorlife's site (The Junior Hockey News) has what I think is a helpful article concerning tryout camps here in the US.    Link

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Should a player have to give up going to a USHL camp to attend an NAHL camp?  Should a player have to give up an NAHL camp for a Tier III camp?  The answer is easily “NO”! 

Why are Tier III teams pressuring players to sign contracts in April and May when the USHL and NAHL drafts haven’t even been completed? 

We sure don’t want to take the lead from Canada though do we?  I mean they have a pretty simple system that allows all players to filter into their own natural landing spot.  Its called using your brain. 

Major Junior leagues have their camps, then Junior A or Tier II, then Junior B and so on down the line.  Pretty damn simple hey kids?  Let the big boys go first, then everyone gets in line.

 

 

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RIP Huckleberry. 1995-2009.... Thanks for 14 unforgettable years Huck. You will forever be loved and missed.

 

 

minor life  

Posted 05 June 2014 - 03:53 PM

Draft means very little.  I watch drafted players in USHL and NAHL get cut every year.  NAHL is not the only Tier II league in North America.  Canada still out commits the US 3 to 1 

Many teams in Canada  do a much better job at moving kids to NCAA than many of the NAHL teams.  The CCHL and OJHL producing a ton of players.

 

 

There is a difference between someone who plays hockey, and a Hockey Player. which one are you?

 

minor life  

Posted 05 June 2014 - 08:35 PM

I understand how the system works.  Everyone talks about the NAHL, when in my opinion it is the fourth best Tier II league in North America.  I will take Canadian Junior A over the NAHL in most instances.

 

 

There is a difference between someone who plays hockey, and a Hockey Player. which one are you?

 

 

What is this?  I see you've figured out how to go 3-4-8 yrs back but is there a point?  If so clean it up so it can be deciphered. 

 

 

I guess I wasn't very clear. I was just trying to point out that apparently you do have some kind of relationship with ML as GG said you were BFF. Secondly ML's statements seem to be different from an earlier opinion he expressed or am I missing something?

 

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Posted Yesterday, 12:16 PM

I didnt say every time players are refered to the BCHL.  I didnt say the "league" encouraged players to go to the BCHL.  I said "some" players.  Some were, and it was becaus the coaches who did it, didnt necessarily trust the NAHL team to return the player if that player were wanted back.  

Your experience Maiden may be different than mine, as other peoples experiences may or may not be different.  You said the "majority" of kids, that certainly doesn't mean every kid you know had a USHL coach call an NAHL coach to get them a spot.  Some USHL coaches still have the opinion that the BCHL is better than the NAHL.  I said some not all.  The NAHL as a league was aware of this opinion existing in some organizations.  

Many reasons are behind an official agreement how ever it ends up being framed.

 

Think about this though.... 

If you are an NAHL owner, this agreement would in effect be an agreement to be subservient to the USHL.  It would then change USA Hockey's self stated description of the "Tier" system.  Under USA Hockey the "Tiers" are NOT differences in the quality or level of talent in a league.  Officially the "Tiers" are only differences in how the finances of each team are managed or how each team is funded and what each team provides. 

Under this scenario, it changes things to a level of play measurement as well as an amenity, and financial measurement.   

Imagine this though, and I am not saying this will happen, I am not saying any discussions I am aware of have taken place.  I say "imagine".  What if the NCDC is a success?  What would have happened if they remained under USA Hockey, and the NAHL had to compete with that Tier II successful competitor?  Who would the USHL aligned themselves with then?  Would the NAHL not had as many call ups or development promotions as they have had recently?  Would the value of NAHL franchises remain the same?

 Lots of business behind these "hockey" decisions.

 

There is a difference between someone who plays hockey, and a Hockey Player. which one are you?

 

 

I'm checking on this rumored agreement thing thus far no one seems to know about it but I haven't gotten all the emails back.


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 01:39 PM

Better, thank you.  And if you are indeed hunting info of a rumored agreement between the USHL and NAHL that's helpful as well.  Not hard to get on a board with nothing but to disagree while adding nothing.   Those don't last long here as we'll soon see.

 

And as far as ML and my relationship that should be no concern of yours or anyone else, respectfully.  I see you figured out how to go back 10 yrs back in posts, read and see what kind of relationship we have if it's a concern of yours.    I do ML brings thoughts and will stand and support them.  Do you have any? 


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 01:45 PM

Better, thank you.  And if you are indeed hunting info of a rumored agreement between the USHL and NAHL that's helpful as well.  Not hard to get on a board with nothing but to disagree while adding nothing.   Those don't last long here as we'll soon see.

 

And as far as ML and my relationship that should be no concern of yours or anyone else, respectfully.  I see you figured out how to go back 10 yrs back in posts, read and see what kind of relationship we have if it's a concern of yours.    I do ML brings thoughts and will stand and support them.  Do you have any? 

 

I see, does that mean I'll be banned? My thoughts are that an agreement between the USHL and the NAHL would be silly. I'm sorry you are embarrassed by your relationship with ML or you would be willing to tell people what it is before it becomes public.


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 01:53 PM



 



Better, thank you.  And if you are indeed hunting info of a rumored agreement between the USHL and NAHL that's helpful as well.  Not hard to get on a board with nothing but to disagree while adding nothing.   Those don't last long here as we'll soon see.

 

And as far as ML and my relationship that should be no concern of yours or anyone else, respectfully.  I see you figured out how to go back 10 yrs back in posts, read and see what kind of relationship we have if it's a concern of yours.    I do ML brings thoughts and will stand and support them.  Do you have any? 

 

I see, does that mean I'll be banned? My thoughts are that an agreement between the USHL and the NAHL would be silly. I'm sorry you are embarrassed by your relationship with ML or you would be willing to tell people what it is before it becomes public.

 

 

This is rich, dude.  So rich I'll let it stand as evidenced that you once graced FYC and this is the extent of your thought process. 


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 02:11 PM

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 02:41 PM

http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0125/5086/AC17_Junior_Council.pdf 

 

How about actually being informed and involved with the sport instead of stalking people from the sidelines.  First paragraph;

 

"Ladder of Development (Movement between levels of junior hockey

Very happy to report that there is a current project being finalized between the United States  Hockey League (Tier I League) and the North American Hockey League (Tier II League).  USA Hockey, USHL and NAHL have met a few times over the course of the year to work through  all aspects"

 

I think since Vanbiesbrouck is the Chair of the Junior Council and he wrote the report that he might have a clue about what is going on with the league.  Or is he uninformed and making things up as the Chair and GM of Muskegon?

 

Got to run, on my way to a few other NAHL events that of course I am not welcome at.  You know because I am such a bad adviser and all.  Sorry for the edge guys and gals.  As much as I would like to say I am above it all, stupidity is irritating.


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 03:03 PM

http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0125/5086/AC17_Junior_Council.pdf 

 

How about actually being informed and involved with the sport instead of stalking people from the sidelines.  First paragraph;

 

"Ladder of Development (Movement between levels of junior hockey

Very happy to report that there is a current project being finalized between the United States  Hockey League (Tier I League) and the North American Hockey League (Tier II League).  USA Hockey, USHL and NAHL have met a few times over the course of the year to work through  all aspects"

 

I think since Vanbiesbrouck is the Chair of the Junior Council and he wrote the report that he might have a clue about what is going on with the league.  Or is he uninformed and making things up as the Chair and GM of Muskegon?

 

Got to run, on my way to a few other NAHL events that of course I am not welcome at.  You know because I am such a bad adviser and all.  Sorry for the edge guys and gals.  As much as I would like to say I am above it all, stupidity is irritating.

 

Which camps maybe we can meet up?



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Posted 20 July 2017 - 04:02 PM

I guess if you use the same template every year you can correct the spelling errors. :)

https://thejuniorhoc...anada-junior-b/


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Rating The Junior Hockey Leagues 2016 Edition – Canada Junior B
Posted by Admin On July 21, 2016 0 Comment

I want to remind all readers that this series of articles rating the junior hockey leagues in North America is based upon independent opinions and analysis of scouts throughout the United States and Canada.

This rating is based upon the 2015-2016 season and nothing more. A leagues history does not come into account in any way.

The criteria that was used in rating these eleven leagues, was how do teams within the leagues compare when developing players who move on to the NHL, NCAA, Canadian University, USHL, NAHL, Canada Junior A and Major Junior hockey programs. The size of the league as in number of teams was also taken into account for depth of player talent throughout the league.

Again this is not a historical account of each league but a rating based upon last season alone. We hope this series of articles is informative and promotes a healthy discussion. Due to the volume of Junior B leagues in Canada, comments are limited in this article, and we are only ranking the top ten.

1. Greater Ontario Junior Hockey League (GOJHL)

The GOJHL remained the top junior B development league in Canada for the third year in a row, and as usual it wasn’t even close. This league, or at least the majority of teams in the league are seen by scouts as being Junior A level without the Junior A label. Will the 2017 season bring the Junior A label?

2. Vancouver Island Junior Hockey League (VIJHL)

A top level league with a lot of very good young players last year. More work was done with player exposure and league marketing in 2015-2016 than has been done in the past. More player movement was talked about than in previous season showing a progressive move toward development.

3. Pacific Junior Hockey League (PJHL)

Pretty much the same as the “V” they did a good job at players move up last season. Marketing toward scouts was increased, and players received benefit of increased scouting. The league as a whole seemed to take a new outlook on development and focused less on just the wins and losses.

4. CCHL2

Ottawa hockey at the B level is continuing to change, and not all for the good. Scouts were looking for a rise in development as the league switched to the CCHL2 from the EOJHL. Though the level of play appeared to rise slightly, the amount of player movement did not equal the rise in talent level. Rumors abounded of players being held back that could have gone to other Junior A leagues.

5. Heritage Junior B Hockey League (HJHL)

Heritage hockey is good. They really try to move kids on to the AJ, and they continue to have success. More ground was lost last season in how well players were scouted and marketed.

6. Prairie Junior Hockey League (PJHL)

See comments above.

7. Kootenay International Junior Hockey League (KIJHL)

Jumping ten spots from last seasons rankings, the KIJHL really made a serious effort last year on behalf of the players. The league as a whole was offended by their ranking last year, and apparently wanted to do something to change it. Actually working for the players and trying to move them up all season did just that. Credit where credit is due.

8. Quebec Junior B Hockey

There are six junior B leagues in Quebec. A lot of teams, and a lot of skill. They work hard to develop players for the Q, and the Maritimes. A lot of teams and a lot of players to see, yet marketing of the league is virtually non existent.

9. New Brunswick Junior B Hockey League

Too bad a good league just doesn’t doo much to move players.

10. Calgary Junior Hockey League

A ton of talent in the league, but no player marketing plan.

Next week, in what will likely be a hotly debated piece we will rate the Tier III junior leagues in the United States.
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2017

 

Rating The Junior Hockey Leagues – Canadian Junior B 2017 Edition
Posted by Admin On July 19, 2017 0 Comment

I want to remind all readers that this series of articles rating the junior hockey leagues in North America is based upon independent opinions and analysis of scouts throughout the United States and Canada.

This rating is based upon the 2016-2017 season and nothing more. A leagues history does not come into account in any way.

The criteria that was used in rating these ten leagues, was how do teams within the leagues compare when developing players who move on to the NHL, NCAA, Canadian University, USHL, NAHL, Canada Junior A and Major Junior hockey programs. The size of the league as in number of teams was also taken into account for depth of player talent throughout the league.

Again this is not a historical account of each league but a rating based upon last season alone. We hope this series of articles is informative and promotes a healthy discussion. Due to the volume of Junior B leagues in Canada, comments are limited in this article, and we are only ranking the top ten.

1. Greater Ontario Junior Hockey League (GOJHL)
The GOJHL remained the top junior B development league in Canada for the fourth year in a row, and as usual it wasn’t even close. This league, or at least the majority of teams in the league are seen by scouts as being Junior A level without the Junior A label. While undergoing changes based upon Ontario Hockey Association mandate, questions of how long they will remain at the top are surfacing.

2. Vancouver Island Junior Hockey League (VIJHL)
A top level league with a lot of very good young players last year. More work was done with player exposure again this year. More player movement took place than in previous seasons showing a progressive move toward development.

3. Pacific Junior Hockey League (PJHL)
Pretty much the same as the “V” they improved at players moving up last season. Marketing toward scouts was increased, and players received benefit of increased scouting.

4. Heritage Junior B Hockey League (HJHL)
Heritage hockey is good, very under rated really. They try to move kids on to the AJ, and they continue to have success. The league looked like it made up some ground this season in regaining scouting interest as more were seen attending games early and late in the season.

5. CCHL2
The CCHL2 looks to be stuck in second gear and the clutch isn’t working. Though the level of play appeared to stay the same, the amount of player movement up did not rise to expected levels. Concerns have been raised that the league is focused too much upon ancillary income streams and not enough on player promotion.

6. Kootenay International Junior Hockey League (KIJHL)
Jumping another position from last seasons rankings, the KIJHL continues to make a serious effort on behalf of the players. Actually working for the players and trying to move them up is paying dividends. The question now is what else can they do to make it better?

7. Prairie Junior Hockey League (PJHL)
The dropped to 7 this year. Not a bad position, but nothing appears to be in the works to raise the profile of the league concerning scouts.

8. Quebec Junior B Hockey
There are six junior B leagues in Quebec. A lot of teams, and a lot of skill. Nothing is changing and no one seems to care.

9. New Brunswick Junior B Hockey League
Too bad a good league just doesn’t do much to move players. If there is a plan, no one seems to know what it is.

10. Calgary Junior Hockey League
A ton of talent in the league, but again no player marketing plan.

Next week, in what will likely be a hotly debated piece we will rate the Tier III junior leagues in the United States.
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Posted 20 July 2017 - 06:06 PM

 

http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0125/5086/AC17_Junior_Council.pdf 

 

How about actually being informed and involved with the sport instead of stalking people from the sidelines.  First paragraph;

 

"Ladder of Development (Movement between levels of junior hockey

Very happy to report that there is a current project being finalized between the United States  Hockey League (Tier I League) and the North American Hockey League (Tier II League).  USA Hockey, USHL and NAHL have met a few times over the course of the year to work through  all aspects"

 

I think since Vanbiesbrouck is the Chair of the Junior Council and he wrote the report that he might have a clue about what is going on with the league.  Or is he uninformed and making things up as the Chair and GM of Muskegon?

 

Got to run, on my way to a few other NAHL events that of course I am not welcome at.  You know because I am such a bad adviser and all.  Sorry for the edge guys and gals.  As much as I would like to say I am above it all, stupidity is irritating.

 

Which camps maybe we can meet up?

 

Sorry Glenn, one stalker is enough.  I wouldn't want to take away from your time with the CHLPA.


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Posted 21 July 2017 - 12:20 PM

 

 

http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0125/5086/AC17_Junior_Council.pdf 

 

How about actually being informed and involved with the sport instead of stalking people from the sidelines.  First paragraph;

 

"Ladder of Development (Movement between levels of junior hockey

Very happy to report that there is a current project being finalized between the United States  Hockey League (Tier I League) and the North American Hockey League (Tier II League).  USA Hockey, USHL and NAHL have met a few times over the course of the year to work through  all aspects"

 

I think since Vanbiesbrouck is the Chair of the Junior Council and he wrote the report that he might have a clue about what is going on with the league.  Or is he uninformed and making things up as the Chair and GM of Muskegon?

 

Got to run, on my way to a few other NAHL events that of course I am not welcome at.  You know because I am such a bad adviser and all.  Sorry for the edge guys and gals.  As much as I would like to say I am above it all, stupidity is irritating.

 

Which camps maybe we can meet up?

 

Sorry Glenn, one stalker is enough.  I wouldn't want to take away from your time with the CHLPA.

 

 

Well, Okay!