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Posted 12 April 2017 - 04:42 PM

Until this post, I had no idea Moreau was coaching at Niagara. His name stands out in this group, because he 1) DID NOT play NCAA hockey, and 2) DOES NOT have a degree. Guy played OHL hockey, and almost 1000 NHL games.

I have no idea what kind of coach he is, or how good, but it is amazing to see the "must have college degree to coach NCAA hockey requirement" myth exposed.

Burkholder had some success at Niagara, but IMHO, going against the NCAA Country Club rules and hiring an "outsider" like Moreau last year may have been his biggest contribution to that team, and college hockey, in general.
>>>Disclaimer: I am in no way, shape or form saying Burkholder was not a good coach, or that he didn't do great things for Niagara hockey.

If there are others without a degree in the NCAA coaching ranks, I'd be interested (as I'm sure others would) to know.

 

 

Says here he was an assistant at Niagara.  http://buffalonews.c...u-hockey-staff/

 

And here that before this year he's never coached before (I guess besides youth hockey somewhere).   http://www.hockeydb....y.php?pid=11361

 

 

Hack, do you know why the Niagara job is open? 


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 04:56 PM

Unfortunately, nothing more than what was indicated in the press release.

I was unaware he had been hired at Niagara this year, so it was surprising to see his name in the mix for the HC vacancy. The shocking part of it, again, is Moreau does not have a degree and is not a former college player- an extremely rare case to find in the college ranks.
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Posted 12 April 2017 - 05:15 PM

Unfortunately, nothing more than what was indicated in the press release.

I was unaware he had been hired at Niagara this year, so it was surprising to see his name in the mix for the HC vacancy. The shocking part of it, again, is Moreau does not have a degree and is not a former college player- an extremely rare case to find in the college ranks.

 

Would be a big jump to go from 1 total year of coaching as an assistant to head coach of a D1 program, no? 


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 06:49 PM


Unfortunately, nothing more than what was indicated in the press release.

I was unaware he had been hired at Niagara this year, so it was surprising to see his name in the mix for the HC vacancy. The shocking part of it, again, is Moreau does not have a degree and is not a former college player- an extremely rare case to find in the college ranks.

 
Would be a big jump to go from 1 total year of coaching as an assistant to head coach of a D1 program, no? 

No doubt. I'd be surprised if he got the job, but these days who knows!
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Posted 12 April 2017 - 06:50 PM

Until this post, I had no idea Moreau was coaching at Niagara. His name stands out in this group, because he 1) DID NOT play NCAA hockey, and 2) DOES NOT have a degree. Guy played OHL hockey, and almost 1000 NHL games.

I have no idea what kind of coach he is, or how good, but it is amazing to see the "must have college degree to coach NCAA hockey requirement" myth exposed.

Burkholder had some success at Niagara, but IMHO, going against the NCAA Country Club rules and hiring an "outsider" like Moreau last year (at the very least) may have been his biggest contribution to that team, and college hockey, in general.
>>>Disclaimer: I am in no way, shape or form saying Burkholder was not a good coach, or that he didn't do great things for Niagara hockey.

If there are others without a degree in the NCAA coaching ranks, I'd be interested (as I'm sure others would) to know.

 

I'm curious how much leeway there is with the degree requirement? 

 

Could a candidate with stellar credentials but no degree, but is enrolled in college coursework to get such a qualifiable degree be hired?  In other words, hired as head coach with condition of continued employment being the successful completion of an approved and accredited collegiate degree by a reasonable amount of time specified in the contract?



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 07:10 PM


Until this post, I had no idea Moreau was coaching at Niagara. His name stands out in this group, because he 1) DID NOT play NCAA hockey, and 2) DOES NOT have a degree. Guy played OHL hockey, and almost 1000 NHL games.

I have no idea what kind of coach he is, or how good, but it is amazing to see the "must have college degree to coach NCAA hockey requirement" myth exposed.

Burkholder had some success at Niagara, but IMHO, going against the NCAA Country Club rules and hiring an "outsider" like Moreau last year (at the very least) may have been his biggest contribution to that team, and college hockey, in general.
>>>Disclaimer: I am in no way, shape or form saying Burkholder was not a good coach, or that he didn't do great things for Niagara hockey.

If there are others without a degree in the NCAA coaching ranks, I'd be interested (as I'm sure others would) to know.

 
I'm curious how much leeway there is with the degree requirement? 
 
Could a candidate with stellar credentials but no degree, but is enrolled in college coursework to get such a qualifiable degree be hired?  In other words, hired as head coach with condition of continued employment being the successful completion of an approved and accredited collegiate degree by a reasonable amount of time specified in the contract?

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 07:13 PM

The only difference with Granato is that he played at Wisco, so the college hockey background is there.
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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:19 PM

 

Owens on KWSN today. Sounds like he has one more year on his contract and all signs point to him returning.

 

As a seller this year he'll have plenty of picks and assets to be a player next year..............

 

Which is precisely why you let him play out his contract.  The Stampede got a damn nice haul of picks and players for the next season and have a few nice pieces coming back and off the affiliate list.

 

Owens was handed a championship winning team or rather what was left of it.  With the mortgage on that next season's draft, I thought he did alright all things considered.  With a miss on the first round pick, this past season's team never seemed to gel on the ice, at least not until the last month or so of the season, when they played noticeably better.  Missing a playmaker like Quercia obviously hurt as well.  The issue was that I was seeing some of the same mistakes being made in game 55 as I was in game 5 of the season, and while coaching definitely is a part of that, it's on the players to execute as well.  Not sure if the players put too much pressure on themselves or what but once they got used to the new faces and recognized the pressure was off, the quality of their play increased noticeably.  The Stampede of the last month or so would have been a playoff team had they played that way all season.



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 07:17 PM



 



 



Owens on KWSN today. Sounds like he has one more year on his contract and all signs point to him returning.

 

As a seller this year he'll have plenty of picks and assets to be a player next year..............

 

Which is precisely why you let him play out his contract. The Stampede got a damn nice haul of picks and players for the next season and have a few nice pieces coming back and off the affiliate list.

 

Owens was handed a championship winning team or rather what was left of it.  With the mortgage on that next season's draft, I thought he did alright all things considered.  With a miss on the first round pick, this past season's team never seemed to gel on the ice, at least not until the last month or so of the season, when they played noticeably better.  Missing a playmaker like Quercia obviously hurt as well.  The issue was that I was seeing some of the same mistakes being made in game 55 as I was in game 5 of the season, and while coaching definitely is a part of that, it's on the players to execute as well.  Not sure if the players put too much pressure on themselves or what but once they got used to the new faces and recognized the pressure was off, the quality of their play increased noticeably.  The Stampede of the last month or so would have been a playoff team had they played that way all season.

 

 

 

It ain't easy the year after winning the cup.   Look at Muckult and the Storm.  He had a fire sale, next year won the cup and now another fire sale.   I know I'm being redundant but this is what makes the Saint's organIzation so amazing, 7th year in a row in the playoffs and IIRC 4-5 Final 4's and a couple cups.

 

I watch the Stampede a bit.   Great PBP man in Olander and a great HD feed and production.  I was impressed by their effort and results they had in the last 4-5 games.  Wonder if you think the same or if that says anything to you?  IMO it at least shows the players didn't quit on Owens.


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 08:45 PM

At no point was the effort an issue, that's why I don't understand the level of hate for Owens coming from some fans.  This year's team was never going to be an offensive dynamo and the second half of the season more or less proved that.

  • Sioux Falls only won 5 out of their last 24 games (though they did win 4 of their last 7 and the three losses were close games with the scores skewed by EN goals).
  • In those last 24 games they scored 3 goals or more only 5 times.
  • Between Jan 29 and Mar 21, they won ONCE.
  • The normally friendly confines of the Denny didn't prove so - 13-13-2-2 for 30/51 points.  
  • Between Jan 1 and Mar 21, they earned 3/20 possible points at home.
  • 14.5% on the PP was a problem all season despite the bright spot of a top 5 PK at 86.3%.
  • SF gave up the most shots in the league by 124.  They gave up 290 more than Cedar Rapids.


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 09:45 PM



 

At no point was the effort an issue, that's why I don't understand the level of hate for Owens coming from some fans.  This year's team was never going to be an offensive dynamo and the second half of the season more or less proved that.

  • Sioux Falls only won 5 out of their last 24 games (though they did win 4 of their last 7 and the three losses were close games with the scores skewed by EN goals).

  • In those last 24 games they scored 3 goals or more only 5 times.

  • Between Jan 29 and Mar 21, they won ONCE.

  • The normally friendly confines of the Denny didn't prove so - 13-13-2-2 for 30/51 points.  

  • Between Jan 1 and Mar 21, they earned 3/20 possible points at home.

  • 14.5% on the PP was a problem all season despite the bright spot of a top 5 PK at 86.3%.

  • SF gave up the most shots in the league by 124.  They gave up 290 more than Cedar Rapids.

 

 

Wow........... 


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Posted 14 April 2017 - 09:24 AM

Indeed.  Effort was never a problem.  The first half they were able to score some goals but couldn't keep the puck out of the net consistently.  Second half corrected some of the defensive issues but the point was made moot by their inability to score.  Hell toss in Berdin's injury (missed 15 or so games, not that he would have started them all) and Quercia missing over 20 games.  You have to figure Berdin could have stolen at least a game or two during that streak and just having someone like Quercia, easily one of their best playmakers, on the ice is bound to have drummed up SOME offense.  No excuses though, as all teams deal with injuries.  Everything kind of coalesced into a perfect storm of suck for 6-8 weeks during which their season circled the bowl and went down.  The bright spots are the play of some of the younger players, some brought in as affiliates and others through the trades that brought in a haul of picks as well.  I do worry a bit about who will wear the C next season because I think Passolt is up there with the best captains this team has ever had and those are some big skates to fill.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:58 PM

Saw some stuff about Allison on here and decided to check up on his stats since he's started.

 

I knew discipline was important to him, and definitely important to going deep into the playoffs.

13/14 (Rogger) - 1324 PIM

14/15 (Allison 1) - 1041 PIM

15/16 (Allison 2) - 957 PIM

16/17 (Allison 3) - 797 PIM

 

Points

13/14 (Rogger) - 48 

14/15 (Allison) - 55

15/16 - 55

16/17 - 76

 

Goals- Consistently improved, up around 10 goals since he joined the club

 

GA - Strong goaltending this year. 13 to16 were around 207 and this year, it was 154 GA.

 

Lots of young talent for the Bucs, even though they are the second oldest team in the league.

 

Either way, I am excited for what the future brings for the Bucs.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 06:46 AM

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According to reports by ESPN’s John Buccigross and Detroit Free Press writer George Sipple, Michigan Tech coach Mel Pearson will be named head men’s hockey coach at Michigan today.

Pearson has been the frontrunner to replace Red Berenson forever.

Pearson was Berenson’s longtime assistant (23 years) and the heir apparent. But after Berenson kept going and going, Pearson eventually went to his alma mater, Michigan Tech six years ago. When he arrived at Tech, he launched a big turnaround in the program. The Huskies have reached the NCAA more than Michigan in the last five years.

That will open up the Michigan Tech job.

My guess is that former Tech assistant Bill Muckalt is very high on Tech’s list. Muckalt won a Clark Cup with Tri City in the USHL last year.

Fargo Force coach Cary Eades has said it would take a perfect job to get him to leave Fargo, but Tech could be intriguing. Tech has been paying its men’s hockey coach more than Northern Michigan — and Tech does have some resources.



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 07:11 AM

I have been told that Muckalt is very likely to go to Michigan and be Pearson's assistant.

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 07:18 AM

I have been told that Muckalt is very likely to go to Michigan and be Pearson's assistant.

 

USHL HC to college assistant?  Interesting.  Some might see that as a step down, but that's all relative. 



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 08:15 AM

Lol- by "perfect job", Eades means North Dakota.

Why wouldn't Muckalt go to Michigan to be an assistant?
1) Its his alma mater, and he will, literally, not have to find a coaching job again (unless the team has several brutal seasons where the whole staff gets fired).
2) He won't be the head coach- significantly less pressure.
3) Less pressure recruiting- just drive 10 minutes down the road to watch the NTDP. Offer about 1/2 of them, get 1/2 of that half to commit and UM recruiting is nearly done for that year! Sprinkle in a couple of players from the USHL, the CJHL, and an average goalie (from anywhere), and you have the next year's Wolverine recruiting class.

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 08:41 AM

Good formula..had to laugh at the simplicity. I live less then a mile from USA arena and see first hand that what you say is true..easy to be a place for scouts to see Ushl hockey and focus on ndtp..

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 08:43 AM

From George Sipple on WTKA: "I think the only way Bill Muckalt is not on the staff is if he's the Tech coach."

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 09:40 AM


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